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Born on the back of terrorists...

Posted by jasonlotito on 2003-10-21 06:56:54

In reply to Rob Enderle

Rob, first, as a Linux user, my first reaction was one of shock and horror. However, after reading the article, I will say that you present a few good points. Unfortunately, the general point of your article (That zealots of any type do more harm than good) will probably get missed by 90% of the people that read this article. Such is the case with all opinion based articles.
Myself, I feel I fall somewhere between a Linux Pro and a Linux Priest. I frankly don't care what someone uses. Personally, I prefer open source. I work on open source, and will work with open source. However, just like a Linux Pro, I will work with Microsoft if that's what's best for the job.
However, as much as Linux, and open source in general has zealots, so does Microsoft. These are the people that rattle off every FUD article out there with regards to Linux and open source. I understand you are aware of this, but still, Microsoft zealots can be just as dangerous.
However, while your article is though provoking...I must contest one part.
"These Zealots have been the primary reason that I've come to believe SCO will likely win its lawsuit -- because if the Zealots are lying about facts I know to be true, they must be lying about facts I don't know about."
That's just it though, it's not the Zealots who are doing the fact finding. The Zealots are simply regurgitating what they read on /. and other places. The real work is being done by what you call "Linux Pro's."
Can you really base your opinion of legal and factual standings on the opinions of zealots? To firmly set in the ground your belief that SCO will win because a 32 year old living in his mother's attic without a job running linux because he is '1337' told you so?
What of all the "Linux Pro's" who present clear and insightful commentary and fact regarding the SCO case?
To put it another way: If you can make a judgement on a case based on one facet of a community, can portions of that community make judgements based on one facet of another community? You make judgements about a legal case because of a bad portion of the Linux community. Is that really a good thing? Do you really feal comfortable in basing your opinion on the 'facts' Linux Zealots have presented? Isn't that the same thing as taking financial advice from a second-grader?
"Little Johnny said do this, so obviously, we need to do the opposite..."
On a side note, I am always fond of the negativity "terrorism" gets. Oh sure, terrorism in general is not nice, but how little Americans (myself being one...) forget that the USA was born on the backs of terrorists. I am not condoning acts of violence mind you, just something to think about.


*	Topic	Author	Date
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Rob Enderle	2003-10-20 13:59:02
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Kagehi	2004-09-27 13:39:32
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	winuxD	2004-09-17 11:26:25
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	colo_larry	2004-04-12 10:56:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	phreakshow	2004-03-11 21:29:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	linux_zealot	2004-03-11 07:37:26
	Historical precedent for this conflict	gawiman	2004-02-03 08:31:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Hucasys	2004-02-02 09:55:30
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	uwntedmutiny	2004-01-30 04:46:24
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	john_j	2004-01-17 07:41:54
	What the SCO case is about	waratah	2003-12-31 21:50:28
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-17 11:15:55
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-17 04:00:26
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Curious	2003-10-29 08:46:52
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-16 10:29:59
	real threat to open source	constant	2003-10-24 13:12:18
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	patrickbealey	2003-10-23 03:12:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	zjimward	2003-10-22 09:55:45
	it is clear where you are comming from.	jk_schnider	2003-10-21 22:07:08
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Daemon	2003-10-21 21:09:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Timex	2003-10-21 19:48:50
	only 3 groups	quadelirus	2003-10-21 18:34:11
	Re: only 3 groups	dclanepe	2003-12-14 11:58:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	sinp	2003-10-21 16:19:58
	help, my neighbors are communists!	yossarian	2003-10-21 13:10:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	gatorarts	2003-10-21 12:21:44
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 11:46:52
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	saigumi	2003-10-21 11:40:00
	The Rules of Slashdot	MajorDongle	2003-10-21 11:33:46
	Re: The Rules of Slashdot	ixnayrox	2003-10-21 18:43:43
	Editor, please....	sensitive	2003-10-21 10:50:00
	Re: Editor, please....	Zebop	2003-10-21 11:57:40
	Re: Editor, please....	bex	2003-10-26 14:40:09
	Re: Editor, please....	zjimward	2003-10-22 10:10:32
	Re: Editor, please....	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:12:33
	Re: Editor, please....	zx80	2003-10-21 14:33:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	laytonbaker	2003-10-21 10:48:13
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	KrisJ	2003-10-21 10:18:41
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	thaleus	2003-10-21 09:36:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Viking	2003-10-21 08:27:47
	Short question	Shaggy763	2003-10-21 08:08:17
	Linux User's response	Harlock	2003-10-21 07:57:26
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	clasmc	2003-10-21 07:22:28
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	MHCBigs	2003-10-21 07:19:46
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	activist	2003-10-23 03:01:50
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	quadelirus	2003-10-21 19:11:09
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	MHCBigs	2003-10-22 07:02:41
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	quadelirus	2003-10-22 12:58:05
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	joeldg	2003-10-21 07:02:42
	Born on the back of terrorists...	jasonlotito	2003-10-21 06:56:54
	Everyone has an agenda	SmallTownGuy	2003-10-21 06:48:10
	Enderle diplays zealot-like irrationality	oicu	2003-10-21 06:37:29
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	leng	2003-10-21 06:26:10
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	lotraz	2003-10-21 06:21:17
	Godwin's Law	arthegall	2003-10-21 05:42:31
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	rsff	2003-10-21 05:37:53
	To my favorite anti open source Zealot	treadup	2003-10-21 03:16:20
	Re: To my favorite anti open source Zealot	bucurosa	2003-10-21 06:23:02
	Provocation	Korpo	2003-10-21 01:09:22
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	seal	2003-10-21 00:36:38
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	jrrich	2003-10-21 11:43:36
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	jasonlotito	2003-10-21 07:00:55
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Dekkard	2003-10-20 23:44:10
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	tungtung	2003-10-20 22:49:50
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Steve_Martin	2003-10-20 19:26:25
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:09:44
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	CryBaby	2003-10-21 12:40:54
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	randal	2003-10-21 05:49:35
	I think this is an oversimplification	Demosthenes	2003-10-20 18:41:25
	Re: I think this is an oversimplification	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 20:06:15
	Re: I think this is an oversimplification	quadelirus	2003-10-22 13:47:47
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	zuesse	2003-10-20 17:58:53
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:11:53
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	ixnayrox	2003-10-20 17:50:17
	So what category does IBM fall into?	dsnider	2003-10-20 17:45:39
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:21:38
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	wsharr	2003-10-21 21:49:16
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:05:59
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	dpates	2003-10-21 14:38:49
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 11:58:15
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	neillewis	2003-10-21 11:06:15
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	simcop2387	2003-10-21 07:03:02
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	pato	2003-10-21 05:59:49
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	metal_hurlant	2003-10-21 00:23:52
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cacurler	2003-10-22 23:17:46
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	vm_hacker	2003-10-21 00:07:32
	Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunk	2003-10-20 16:13:46
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 17:29:52
	"kill"?	bani	2003-11-18 22:03:11
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	CryBaby	2003-10-21 11:08:25
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	aristeu	2003-10-21 07:01:56
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunk	2003-10-20 20:53:49
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:30:15
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	georgeB	2003-10-22 22:46:27
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:27:54
	Re: Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	ee_man	2003-10-21 10:00:30
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	neillewis	2003-10-21 09:22:57
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunks	2003-10-23 01:06:09
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	simcop2387	2003-10-21 06:44:39
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	dokterneo	2003-10-21 06:27:28