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Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux

Posted by CryBaby on 2003-10-21 12:40:54

In reply to RobEnderle

It's not that I think such threats (if they did, in fact, occur) should be treated lightly. If it were I who was threatened I would immediately report it to the FBI and, if I thought I had a way to reply to these individuals, make it clear that I had begun legal proceedings against them. What I have a problem with is your blanket stereotyping that attempts to paint "Linux Zealots", as I suppose you are calling the people who threatened you, as some kind of large and ominous presence. Your article mentions that "Linux Zealots" often use pseudonyms based on male body parts and that you imagine they are unemployed. I could be mistaken, but it sounds like you are talking about a very small, narrowly defined group of people with whom you have had personal contact. If that is true, your entire article could be summed up as follows:
"Every time I come out with a pro-MS article (which is pretty much every article I write) I get nasty responses. A tiny handful of people have even threatened to DOS my site. Therefore, it is convenient for me in making my point to group passionately pro-linux people together with these few idiot crackpots (or perhaps dangerous criminals). I am so thin-skinned that I have actually allowed these thugs to shape my opinions about the technical merits of linux and the legal merits of the SCO case."
Let me make it clear that I am basing my addmitedly harsh criticism on the assumption that you have been personally threatened with a DOS attack by some small number of real or self-styled computer criminals. You then proceeded to abstract and extrapolate these few individuals into a group with a made-up label (i.e. "Linux Zealots") that emphasizes their OS preference over their criminal threats. It would be nice if you could clear this matter up for your readers and let us know to what extent your own fear and anger played a role in your conclusion that "Linux Zealots" are terrorists.
I want to bring up one other point. In your response above you make it clear that you consider people who threaten a DOS attack to be in some way equivalent to terrorists. Let's pursue that analogy. If you are the victim of terrorist violence, you are either dead, maimed, or horribly traumatized. The terrorists themselves are guilty of the highest crimes against humanity, punishable by death in many countries. If you are the victim of a DOS attack, you are inconvenienced and you might suffer some financial loss. Unless I'm missing something, these crimes have about as much in common as do vandalism and murder. So, what is your point?


*	Topic	Author	Date
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Rob Enderle	2003-10-20 13:59:02
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Kagehi	2004-09-27 13:39:32
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	winuxD	2004-09-17 11:26:25
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	colo_larry	2004-04-12 10:56:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	phreakshow	2004-03-11 21:29:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	linux_zealot	2004-03-11 07:37:26
	Historical precedent for this conflict	gawiman	2004-02-03 08:31:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Hucasys	2004-02-02 09:55:30
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	uwntedmutiny	2004-01-30 04:46:24
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	john_j	2004-01-17 07:41:54
	What the SCO case is about	waratah	2003-12-31 21:50:28
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-17 11:15:55
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-17 04:00:26
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Curious	2003-10-29 08:46:52
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Robincc	2003-12-16 10:29:59
	real threat to open source	constant	2003-10-24 13:12:18
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	patrickbealey	2003-10-23 03:12:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	zjimward	2003-10-22 09:55:45
	it is clear where you are comming from.	jk_schnider	2003-10-21 22:07:08
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Daemon	2003-10-21 21:09:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Timex	2003-10-21 19:48:50
	only 3 groups	quadelirus	2003-10-21 18:34:11
	Re: only 3 groups	dclanepe	2003-12-14 11:58:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	sinp	2003-10-21 16:19:58
	help, my neighbors are communists!	yossarian	2003-10-21 13:10:03
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	gatorarts	2003-10-21 12:21:44
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 11:46:52
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	saigumi	2003-10-21 11:40:00
	The Rules of Slashdot	MajorDongle	2003-10-21 11:33:46
	Re: The Rules of Slashdot	ixnayrox	2003-10-21 18:43:43
	Editor, please....	sensitive	2003-10-21 10:50:00
	Re: Editor, please....	Zebop	2003-10-21 11:57:40
	Re: Editor, please....	bex	2003-10-26 14:40:09
	Re: Editor, please....	zjimward	2003-10-22 10:10:32
	Re: Editor, please....	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:12:33
	Re: Editor, please....	zx80	2003-10-21 14:33:35
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	laytonbaker	2003-10-21 10:48:13
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	KrisJ	2003-10-21 10:18:41
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	thaleus	2003-10-21 09:36:14
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Viking	2003-10-21 08:27:47
	Short question	Shaggy763	2003-10-21 08:08:17
	Linux User's response	Harlock	2003-10-21 07:57:26
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	clasmc	2003-10-21 07:22:28
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	MHCBigs	2003-10-21 07:19:46
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	activist	2003-10-23 03:01:50
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	quadelirus	2003-10-21 19:11:09
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	MHCBigs	2003-10-22 07:02:41
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	quadelirus	2003-10-22 12:58:05
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	joeldg	2003-10-21 07:02:42
	Born on the back of terrorists...	jasonlotito	2003-10-21 06:56:54
	Everyone has an agenda	SmallTownGuy	2003-10-21 06:48:10
	Enderle diplays zealot-like irrationality	oicu	2003-10-21 06:37:29
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	leng	2003-10-21 06:26:10
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	lotraz	2003-10-21 06:21:17
	Godwin's Law	arthegall	2003-10-21 05:42:31
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	rsff	2003-10-21 05:37:53
	To my favorite anti open source Zealot	treadup	2003-10-21 03:16:20
	Re: To my favorite anti open source Zealot	bucurosa	2003-10-21 06:23:02
	Provocation	Korpo	2003-10-21 01:09:22
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	seal	2003-10-21 00:36:38
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	jrrich	2003-10-21 11:43:36
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	jasonlotito	2003-10-21 07:00:55
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Dekkard	2003-10-20 23:44:10
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	tungtung	2003-10-20 22:49:50
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	Steve_Martin	2003-10-20 19:26:25
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:09:44
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	CryBaby	2003-10-21 12:40:54
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	randal	2003-10-21 05:49:35
	I think this is an oversimplification	Demosthenes	2003-10-20 18:41:25
	Re: I think this is an oversimplification	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 20:06:15
	Re: I think this is an oversimplification	quadelirus	2003-10-22 13:47:47
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	zuesse	2003-10-20 17:58:53
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:11:53
	Re: Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux	ixnayrox	2003-10-20 17:50:17
	So what category does IBM fall into?	dsnider	2003-10-20 17:45:39
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:21:38
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	wsharr	2003-10-21 21:49:16
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:05:59
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	dpates	2003-10-21 14:38:49
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 11:58:15
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	neillewis	2003-10-21 11:06:15
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	simcop2387	2003-10-21 07:03:02
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	pato	2003-10-21 05:59:49
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	metal_hurlant	2003-10-21 00:23:52
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	cacurler	2003-10-22 23:17:46
	Re: So what category does IBM fall into?	vm_hacker	2003-10-21 00:07:32
	Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunk	2003-10-20 16:13:46
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 17:29:52
	"kill"?	bani	2003-11-18 22:03:11
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	CryBaby	2003-10-21 11:08:25
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	aristeu	2003-10-21 07:01:56
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunk	2003-10-20 20:53:49
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	RobEnderle	2003-10-20 21:30:15
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	georgeB	2003-10-22 22:46:27
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunks	2003-10-21 16:27:54
	Re: Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	ee_man	2003-10-21 10:00:30
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	neillewis	2003-10-21 09:22:57
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	cypherpunks	2003-10-23 01:06:09
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	simcop2387	2003-10-21 06:44:39
	Re: Time to listen to your own advice.	dokterneo	2003-10-21 06:27:28