What if commercial software developers for popular Windows products sold Linux versions to a waiting market of open source users? Think in terms of paying a subscription fee to use a Linux version of Adobe’s Photoshop image manipulation software, for starters.
Is porting commercial products like Photoshop as a licensed — that is, paid — product for Linux a viable idea? That is precisely what one Linux server administrator wants Adobe to find out.
The idea to create a groundswell of support for paid access to Linux versions of some Windows workhorse programs began several weeks ago as an Internet petition on Change.org.
“I think Adobe would think about it if we can show them that there are thousands of people around the world who don’t like Windows anymore and can’t buy a Mac. For me, the only reason [for] installing Windows is Photoshop,” Gao Nagy, a Linux server administrator living in Budapest, Hungary, told LinuxInsider.
If Adobe executives have been considering such a business move, they haven’t been champing at the bit to let the world know. Company officials for more than two weeks ignored LinuxInsider’s requests to discuss the merits of offering commercial versions of their software for the Linux desktop.
Mum’s the Word
Adobe finally provided a written reply to our queries — but only to decline to discuss the issue.
“Adobe doesn’t have any specific plans to share at this time, but is constantly evaluating new hardware and software capabilities, and designing and building features to take advantage of the latest technology,” wrote spokesperson Deane Allie.
The desire to unite Linux users worldwide on a software support campaign led Nagy to start his Internet petition drive. He hoped word would spread like wildfire via social networking.
So far, it has not. More than a month into the campaign, he has persuaded just 124 signers. However, Nagy hopes that some media attention will kick-start his petition efforts and result in an outpouring of support.
“It’s really hard to reach people,” he noted.
Despite the so-far disappointing response, Nagy thinks his idea will grow as more Linux users learn of his proposal to Adobe.
“I think half of the people whom I can reach via Facebook or Google+ are supporting this petition. But people don’t really like to share anything on these sites,” he said.
Needy Idea or Redundant Software?
Besides his Linux server duties for a large company, Nagy always needs to design things for his work. He also takes on other design jobs and is active in several creative circles. He uses Gentoo Linux at home and networks with associates who would like to try Ubuntu or Cent OS because they are easy to use.
He creates home pages for websites, programming in PHP, JS, Java and C++. He relies daily on designing and video tools. He even bought Photoshop despite the fact that it does not run on Linux, which means he has to shift to the Windows OS to use it.
Some may criticize him for not remaining with GIMP and other open source creative software, Nagy said. However, these programs do not always provide the performance levels of Adobe’s professional creativity products.
“Yes, GIMP is a great tool, but I think GIMP is just a little boy who is playing in a sandbox and trying to build a castle. He needs some years to be a king with a real castle,” Nagy quipped.
Nagy’s Internet petition calls on Adobe to make its products for the Linux OS. He challenges Adobe to be the next big thing in the open source marketplace.
The first success for Linux was a webserver called Apache, the second was Oracle with their database engine. Now it’s time for the next huge step. There are many people who would use Adobe products and many companies could save money with using Linux so it would be a great success for the Linux world to use Adobe Photoshop, Premiere Pro, etc.. on Linux. Save money and use professional softwares in one step.
Nagy posts updates on the number of online signers and asks supporters to “just keep going.” He urges visitors to the petition page to share their support of the petition every week on their Facebook, Google+ and Twitter pages.
Not a Free Option
Nagy does not want Adobe to join the open source ranks to provide Linux users with more free software. He is not asking Adobe — or any other software developer who would port to Linux — to open their code or source it to the Linux communities.
Nagy does not even want Adobe to distribute its software for free. Instead, he wants Adobe to port Linux versions of its titles and let Linux users pay monthly subscription fees. Of course, buying it outright might be another option.
This marketing approach is already in play by other software developers bringing commercialized packages to Linux. Nagy simply wants Adobe to join that market of paid Linux software providers.
“Now there is Steam for Linux,” he pointed out. “It’s not open. The games are not open, and they cost some dollars,” he observed.
If more commercial software developers pay attention to the Linux market, all Linux communities would benefit, according to Nagy.
“If a big company like Adobe one day says, ‘Now I’m supporting Linux,’ maybe Autodesk will say the same and some other big companies too,” he suggested.
The petition asks Adobe to take the opportunity, but the challenge needs critical mass. Different standards, platforms and options are good because they promote competition, according to Tuong Huy Nguyen, principal research analyst for Gartner.
“It gives consumers choice and leads to the best rising to the top,” Nguyen told LinuxInsider.
Still, the issue boils down to this: When publishers and developers — or even manufacturers — are faced with multiple options, they often have to choose one, or at least prioritize, he added.
“The opportunity with Linux would be considerably smaller than with Windows, OS X, etc. So would the time and labor of porting the application make sense for all developers? If so, which of their applications should they port?” Nguyen wondered.
“You see this in the gaming world,” he continued. “A game may come out on console and not PC, or vice versa — or maybe console and PC but not Mac. And this is gaming — a sizable market in relation to the software market as a whole,” he noted.
The bottom line for Nguyen is the potential size of the Linux market. When you think of Linux, you are thinking of a smaller addressable market than Windows or Mac.
“As such, you need to be more careful with how you approach the market to ensure you get a return on your investment. This is something the publishers all consider when they launch their applications,” Nguyen said.
Besides market share, there’s the power of the purists. Those two factors might well never be overcome by a petition of any size.
“With the desktop market the way it is today, I don’t think pure proprietary players like Adobe will be able to find a significant audience for Linux. Those who have adopted Linux for desktops can be described as techie purists. They are purposely shunning commercial software for philosophical reasons and will continue to be drawn to open source solutions for their needs,” Mac McConnell, vice president of Bonitasoft, told LinuxInsider.
Those of us promoting open software love these guys, McConnell said, but until there is a financial incentive, it’s not clear why traditional commercial software companies would be willing to build for Linux desktop.
Honestly, Adobe is one of my most hated software developers. Everything they make is invasive, vulnerable, bloatware. The GIMP is a far better option for Linux and I do think that some day it will be better than Photoshop. As for the remarks about gpu drivers for Linux. Now that Valve has put some muscle behind graphics for Linux, both nVidia and AMD are starting to put some real resources into developing their Linux drivers, and recent versions of their drivers have shown marked improvements in performance.
If that continues, and the SteamOS is a winner for Valve, we might some day see Linux graphics drivers with better performance than Windows drivers – the GNU Linux base, the kernel, provides a more stable, more flexible and better performing base for drivers than anything that Microsoft has yet released. There is no reason why properly supported graphics drivers shouldn’t surpass their Windows equivalents.
The idea is a total non-starter.
1. The downright hostility to the idea of of a stable driver ABI and closed source drivers have resulted in downright pathetic GPU performance and Photoshop is tending to try to use GPUs for certain effects. The Linux version would take a measurable performance hit. The Linux community needs to attract Windows users and that means offering something that is at least as good as the Windows version.
2. Adobe will demand that the Linux Photoshop be self funding. On Windows, once the product is out the door all that is left is bug fixes and developing the next version. On Linux, some developers will have to work full-time to fix the breakage from the perpetual 6 month update death march Linux seems to be stuck in. Not to mention the time needed to get a version that works with all the slightly incompatible versions of Linux. This means that the Linux version of Photoshop will be significantly more expensive than the Windows version, to the point where buying a windows license will be the cheaper option.
Honestly, you’ll see Photoshop for BSD before you see it for Linux, since they will be able to write the program once and then work on the next version or bug fixes. I’d love to use Linux as much as the next person, but I love working sound, video card drivers, and not playing Russian roulette with 5 loaded chambers when I apply updates more.
If someone put forth the money and polished up BSD for the home user, got hardware and software vendors on board, and sold it for $20 per license to fund continued development with a full-time team, it could sell very well.
Adobe has repeatedly stated that they will NEVER release a Linux version of Photoshop. Period. It’s been in their user forums for years.
The only way to efficiently use Photoshop in Linux is to have a virtual Windows machine with Photoshop installed on it, unless you really want to deal with a dual-boot system.
The GIMP is a very nice photo editor, but it isn’t in the same league as Photoshop, but they keep improving it. At some point, it will be just as good and Adobe will have a really big problem.
I would vote, but I’ve already contacted them many times in the past and even got into arguments in their forums. They always had some excuse…
Another Idea IMO, would be a petition for the Humble Indie Bundle to add Gimp / Krita / blender, etc. and other open source tools as part of their charities to support.
Gimp only has 2 or 3 developers, imagine what could happen if they had double or triple those devs!
Gimp could become the equivalent of Html5 to flash!
Indies benefit and give back and linux users win! And best of all No more Begging to adobe!